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By the way, I DO divide the world into "good guys" and "bad guys". [Aug. 19th, 2010|05:52 pm]
Xiphias Gladius
Just so you know: if you're against the building of an Islamic community center in Downtown Manhattan, you're one of the bad guys.

If you are saying, "well, sure, they have the LEGAL right to do it, but by putting it there, they're just being provocative," then you may not be particularly evil yourself, but you're intimidated by the evil people into being one of their henchmen. People doing completely normal things like building community centers aren't being provocative. The people who you are afraid they will provoke? Those are the bad guys. And if you are saying that they should modify their behaviors to do what the bad guys want, then you are saying that you support the bad guys.

And that means that you're one of the bad guys.

And THAT means that I find you a danger to me, personally. I'm Jewish. Right now, Jews are mostly considered more or less white. But that could change. And the second it does, people will start saying things like, "Well, sure, they COULD build a synagogue there, but wouldn't that just be asking for trouble?"

Everything that people are saying about the downtown Manhattan community center, I just automatically hear people saying that about something that I might want to do someday. If you're against them, then you're against me, and you're also against justice, freedom, and every ideal that this country stands for.

Just so we're clear on that.

[User Picture]From: xiphias
2010-08-24 02:59 pm (UTC)
"White" doesn't refer to skin color. Caucasians are, more or less, pink-ish. Physical differences which make people non-white include facial features, hair shapes, eye shape, and so forth -- while lightness of skin IS a factor, as it turns out, it's nowhere near as simple as "white/nonwhite skin" -- see, for instance, the "paper bag parties" that existed in the South, in places with historical racial mixing, but still racist -- sometimes, people would hang a paper bag outside the door -- you must be this light or lighter to come in. Our President is almost light enough to pass that test. . .

To me, this ties into a whole mess of things which end up meaning that "whiteness" is a moving target which may have little to do with skin color. A person who gives off the cultural signals for gayness lacks white privilege -- whether or not said person is white (or, for that matter, gay).
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[User Picture]From: holzman
2010-08-24 07:53 pm (UTC)
A person who gives off the cultural signals for gayness lacks white privilege

A white person who gives off the cultural signals for gayness has white privilege. They may have an impacted heterosexual privilege, but heterosexual privilege is not the same thing as white privilege. Heck, white people who are actually gay have white privilege. Heterosexuals of color have heterosexual privilege but not white privilege. LGBTs of color are oppressed both as LGBTs and as people of color.
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[User Picture]From: poeticalpanther
2010-09-15 08:36 pm (UTC)
Wow, weird disconnect. For some reason, I'd always read your comments as coming from a woman. I apologize for the mental misgendering.

I think perhaps I have another friend who has or had the same icon.
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[User Picture]From: xiphias
2010-09-15 08:47 pm (UTC)
I certainly don't mind.
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[User Picture]From: poeticalpanther
2010-09-15 09:01 pm (UTC)
Which I'd guessed, and which makes me quite well-inclined to you. There are many men to whom I'd never have made that statement aloud. :)
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